Name: Sam, Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.178.253.164
Date: 15/12/03
Time: 22:08
Sandy can I book 4 seats for Saturday's bus to Stirling. 3 definates and 1 maybe. Definates are: Sam, Bri, Inch. Maybe: Al. We will be getting on at the bus station at 11.30 a.m. Post back if this is ok.
Name: sandy
Remote Name: 213.40.3.66
Date: 15/12/03
Time: 19:41
to the person with no name
yes we'll stop in dundee if you want to take the bus
Name: boxcar wullie
Remote Name: 81.135.115.74
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 17:06
diack there's only one diack.come on lichties let's get a cup run going. get as many folk as poss to travel to stirling
Name: sandy
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 16:27
Everyone who is wanting to go either give me a phone on 879704 or leave your name and number of seats required on the guest book here
Name: sandy
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 16:24
bellrock what are you on about?
There is definately going to be a bus. had about 30 people as to book seats which will not fill a 52 seater! im going to book a double decker just incase more people come along on the day.
as i said before bus is £6 for members, £8 for non members so much cheaper than getting the train.
Dont listen to bell rock he's talking sh*te.
THERE WILL BE A BUS
Name: BELLROCK
Remote Name: 195.92.168.170
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 13:07
IMPORTANT INFORMATION:: It looks like there is no bus to Stirling. OBSERVE:: SCOTRAIL:: DEPARTURE TIMES:: 10.22 12.22 ARRIVAL 11.38 13.37 FARES::Day return {on the day} £16.30 book 48 hours in advance £15.00 well the 10.22 looks good to me plenty time for a good swally & singsong
see ya all on the platform don't be square be there COME ON ARBROATH SMOKIES AND WINE SMOKIES AND WINE
Name: Broath Boy
Remote Name: 81.178.252.105
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 12:48
I'd just like to say after yesterday's performance against Stenny with the fighting spirit of Cargill, McGlashan, Diack, etc., has reinvigorated my support for the Lichties, not that it ever wained. I cannot wait for the cup game at Stirling.
Lets the the singing started now!
"Drink up yer whisky and Newcastle brown the Arbroath boys are in town. na na na
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 12:46
Played very well yesterday,should have won the game 5 or 6-1 and thats being kind to Stennie.Gavin Swankie should have scored,but was unlucky with his two shots off the post,and his two headers he some how missed when it was easier to score from 2 yards.How John McGlashan and Iain Diack missed there chances i'll never know,2-3 yards out and somehow put the ball over the bar.We had 2 or 3 penalty claims turned down in the second half as yet again Arbroath seem to end up with a bad ref again.And how the Stennie no.3 stayed on the park i'll never know,after being booked he rugby tackled Andy Cagill as he made his way towards goal.And heard that Mark McCulloch has signed up until January,great news he played very well yesterday,but don't think he can play at Stirling next week,i think you have to be signed two weeks before the tie.
Name: Kamekazi
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 14/12/03
Time: 09:59
Well it's probably a delightful in-joke among those in the know but back to the fitba. Never made it yesterday but seems to have been a spirited performance even if they couldn't bury it earlier. The reports mention will-to-win which is one of the differences with the home performances of late. Noticed Cusick is out again - presumed injured - which is a perennial pain. But having Diack back so quick is a bonus. Three tough away games now on the trot so hope we can improve our miserable away record (unbeaten after 2). Having always played tow more homes than away we could easily get sucked into the relegation battle. But beating the likes of Stenny gives extra value since it keeps them down. We need to do better than point-a-game over the season though - that's relegation
Name: steeplejack
Remote Name: 195.92.168.176
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 22:08
good shout bellrock there is definately a big intrest in the stirling game, especialy after a good performance today. sandy, have you phoned scotrail regarding laying on a special?
Name: Graham
Remote Name: 195.92.168.174
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 20:56
Question - What does Referee Scott MacDonald want from Santa this year?
Answer - BALLS!!, and maybe a new watch, where did he get those 5 minutes from?
Number 3, was yellow carded then minutes later hacked down Cargill at the edge of the box, and should have been shown another, some of the challenges by their defenders were shocking, and the referee kept on telling players to stop wasting time, but seemed to take a blind eye to the serious fouls. The linesmen as well should learn to speak up, I think it was Rennie got booked for taking the free kick in the wrong place, yet he was inline with the linesman’s flag.
A spirited performance from Arbroath today, which could have seen us score 5-6 in the first half. It was my first sight of Diack and he looks a quality acquisition.. Strong and powerful, good on both feet, and has a good eye for goal. Marc Mculloch played well, had some great touches and can turn players in a flash. The Whole team played well, I just thought we sat back too much after about 70 minutes. Swankie was unlucky with his shot that hit the bar, but I think he knows he should have scored with his header in the last minute, after a super run from Cargill. Cargill and McGlashan were superb and great leaders for the younger players. Flyer also had a storming game, and King’s never say die attitude is first class.
Should have killed the game earlier, but a win is a win! Well done lads.
Smokies and Wine!
Name: BELLROCK Aberbrothock
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 20:37
Sandy I spoke to you today at the Gayf. By all accounts there seems to be a tremendous amount of interest about going to Stirling. Are you sure that only 1 bus will be needed, the talk in there is hunners going. My worry is 200+ turning up at the bus station for only one 52 seater are you wanting us to post names phones No. etc. to you to save confusion.
Steeplejack I hope you fu*k the Perth Pack on Friday night.
If your all going to Stirling, all going to Stirling, all going to Stirling, tap your mouse, tap your mouse.
Name: SMOKIE JOE fae GLASGOW
Remote Name: 62.252.128.14
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 20:30
GREAT GAME TODAY, COULD SO EASY HAVE BEEN 5 - 2 TO THE LICHTIES. WE SHOULD HAVE BURIED THEM BY HALF-TIME INSTEAD OF BITING OUR NAILS IN THE SECOND HALF. THOUGHT MCCULLOCH AND DIACK SHOWED GOOD TOUCHES AND DEMONSTRATE VALUED ADDITIONS TO THE POOL. KIRKIE HAS AT LAST IDENTIFIED OUR WEAKNESS AND IS RECTIFYING SAME. I DONT THINK HE HAS TO DO MUCH MORE TO GET THE JOB ON PERMANENT BASIS. HAVING TAKEN POINTS FROM ALL THE TEAMS ABOVE US (EXCEPT MORTON)THE SECOND PLACE IS A REAL POSSIBILITY. COME ON THE LICHTIES ! GOOD LUCK IN THE CUP ON SATURDAY !
Name: steeplejack
Remote Name: 195.92.168.163
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 19:26
a great performance today now were starting to show what we are capeable of, seems to be a lot of fans going to stirling next week, thats the spirit lads, xmas shopping is traditionaly done on xmas eve anyway so no excuses for not going.cmon the lichties, we are harder than most and we rule the east coast na na na.
Name: Swankie
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 18:17
Another good performance from the Lichties today. We are only 8 points from a promotional place now. Everything still to play for. Just need to continue the home form when we are on the road!!
Sandy, how many people have booked seats on the bus?
Name: sandy
Remote Name: 213.40.3.66
Date: 13/12/03
Time: 18:08
good news! there will be a bus to stirling next saturday as we've had plenty of interest, if only it was like this every week!!!!
The bus will leave arbroath bus station around 11.30am then stop at tutties around 11.45am. Prices are £6 for members, £8 for non members, £5 for OAP's and children. I want a full bus now c'mon support the lichties!!!
Anyone else who would like to go can book seats by phoning me on 01241 879704. if im not in and someone answers just leave a message with them, cheers!
Name: Adam Brechin
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 12/12/03
Time: 20:26
Good luck to "Marco" McCulloch fromall at Glebe Park. He's a boy who wont let you down.
Name: Graham,
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 12/12/03
Time: 19:19
With R Graham and Diack out injured and Durno away to OZ we could be a bit shy upfront tommorrow, I hope Cargill and McGlashan still have their shooting boots on, and Andy Dow also due back
Smokies and Wine~
Name: Pat Sharpe, FUNHOUSE extraordinaire
Remote Name: 82.40.89.233
Date: 12/12/03
Time: 18:19
"Bomber" Brown and Super Paddy Flannery will rip your defence and a comfortable win for the REAL maroon and white. FUNHOUSE, WHOLE LOT OF FUN,PRIZES TO BE WON,IT'S A REAL CRAZY SHOW WHERE ANYTHING GOES!
Name: rob giles
Remote Name: 194.105.180.129
Date: 12/12/03
Time: 16:02
any team can beat aberdeen 36 0 so stop going on about it and try to win more than 2 games a season
Name: graham
Remote Name: 195.92.168.164
Date: 12/12/03
Time: 15:07
Reports in the courier are that freed Brechin player Mark McCulloch will try out for the Lichties this weekend
Name: Not the Ginger One!
Remote Name: 134.36.145.189
Date: 12/12/03
Time: 13:32
Go on Swankie that's the spirit!!! Come on Arbroath beat that S***e on Saturday. I'll be there cheering you on from the terraces. Smokies and Wine!!!!!!!!!!
Name: Swankie
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 11/12/03
Time: 19:16
Come on Lichties! Stenny are ****. Lets show them what we are made of!!!
Grrrrrrr
Name:
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 08/12/03
Time: 21:54
Brechin reserves 4 Arbroath reserves 1,Arbroath's goalscorer Paul Watson,
Name: Balkansmokie, Sarajevo
Remote Name: 193.110.130.129
Date: 08/12/03
Time: 11:56
Gutted!!! What more can I say.
I managed to get to watch the Sky Sports football coverage on saturday so saw all the scores coming up. I would have loved to have been there, a 10 goal thriller, and after being gubbed earlier in the season by the same side 4 - 0, to get the 4 back that they put past us and still be on the losing side is gutting.
It is quite refreshing for the Lichties to be putting the ball in the back of the net as they don't seem to have been scoring much previously. Now shore that defence up.
Name: DanLichtie Exiled in Edinburgh
Remote Name: 81.132.215.228
Date: 07/12/03
Time: 15:45
Just saw the radio broadcast of Morton against the Lichties. Would this not be a good idea for Gayfield. I would be willing to pay a charge to hear the home games as I can't always get up there.
What does everyone else think?
Name: Farflung Africa
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 07/12/03
Time: 06:07
Wow, can't remember when the Lichties last scored four so it's tough to end up on the losing side. I'd opt for losing 6-4 than 2-0 any day - and it seems to have been a spirited performance. (incidentally that's a season's aggregate of 14-7 to Morton over the three games this year. I hope they can carry this determination through and start earning some deserved results - we're perilously close to the bottom. Cusick has been a key figure in making the team work for a the past 3 seasons - wish he could stay fit.
Name: Fred Lichtie, Broughty Ferry
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 06/12/03
Time: 22:16
Congratulations to the players on a committed and gutsy performance this afternoon, following on from a similar effort on Tuesday. It's a travesty we only have one point to show for it. The signing of Diack and the return of Cusick has transformed the team from the ragged outfit who finished against Hamilton. I just hope they are both recovered from their injuries for next week's "must win" against Stenny.
I don't know whether there will be a report on the website but from my biased point of view Morton scored one goal (the third?) from a clearly offside position (I think the linesman's flag was up but he quickly took it down again), and their final goal came from a long punt following a clear foul on Cargill deep in the Morton half. Up till then 5-5 was a definite possibility, with Arbroath doing all the pressing!
SUPPORT THE LICHTIES!
Name: Graham
Remote Name: 195.92.168.174
Date: 06/12/03
Time: 18:11
6-4!!!!!!!!!! I don't know if I should cry or laugh
Name: Balkansmokie, Sarajevo
Remote Name: 193.110.130.129
Date: 06/12/03
Time: 15:07
Having had no luck in getting to a computer (this place isn't as bad as a third world country - but very close) I eagerly opened the website to follow the inane chatter from the lichtie fans and was extremely impressed with the match report from Tuesday vs Airdrie. The reporter was obviously on a high from the match and it made thrilling reading, on a par with being at the match I'll bet. There seemed to be so much positive about the performance - especially the new youngster - and very little in a bad light.
I'm writing this at 4pm local - 3pm Lichtie time - and am awaiting with baited breath the shock that Morton so dearly need. The Lichties seem to have a big game in them today, like I said the match report hinted as such.
Up the Lichties
Name: Graham
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 06/12/03
Time: 13:20
Andy Dow has a calf strain
Name: Farflung, central Africa
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 06/12/03
Time: 07:05
From reports, seemed a fairly uplifting performance Tuesday and maybe unlucky to take the points. Where was Andy Dow - injured or out of favour? Big test this Saturday may give a better idea. We need to take some points away from hope. C'way the Lichties
Name: Broath Boy
Remote Name: 81.178.210.93
Date: 05/12/03
Time: 21:30
What time does the bus leave for Stirling and where. Got a works piss-up in Scumtrose the night before. Cheap booze = sore head.
Name: BELLROCK
Remote Name: 195.92.168.171
Date: 05/12/03
Time: 21:25
Thanks for that swankie.
Well count me in. Come on lichtie fans post yer name if yer going to Stirling. (by bus)
Name: Swankie
Remote Name: 195.92.168.168
Date: 05/12/03
Time: 19:57
BELLROCK, there will only be a bus going to Stirling if we get 20 or more people to definately go. The '36-0' club cannot afford to put on a bus if people are not going to turn up. This happened at the first away game of the season (Greenock Morton), and ended up costing the club alot of cash. If you are definately wanting to travel on the bus please get in touch with Sandy Ferguson on 01241 879704.
Regarding the bus to Forfar, I do not know if there will be one. If we get a good response to the Stirling game then I am sure the club will think about putting 1 (or 2?) buses on.
Support the Lichties!
Name: BELLROCK
Remote Name: 195.92.168.166
Date: 05/12/03
Time: 19:01
Dose anyone kwow about busses regarding Sirling, times prices etc Also is there transport away to Forfar
Name: BELLROCK
Remote Name: 195.92.168.166
Date: 05/12/03
Time: 17:09
Dose anyone know the details regarding busses to Stirling, times prices etc. Good news for you broathboy Rosland Brown's going... Also is there going to be transport to the Forfar game. THANKS
Name: Swankie
Remote Name: 212.187.155.156
Date: 05/12/03
Time: 12:29
Paul, may I suggest that we invade every pub in Forfar, before and after the game!!
Name: paul(millwall fc)
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 04/12/03
Time: 22:03
any info on 3jan at forfar contact me newbery44@aol.com
Name: paul(millwall fc)
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 04/12/03
Time: 21:57
will be travelling to forfar for away game jan3 how many fans will travel and what pub will we use before game paul
Name: steeplejack
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 04/12/03
Time: 20:45
question for broathboy. do you also go under the name of glencarseboy, ha ha you know what i mean.
Name: Shaun Greenock lad
Remote Name: 195.92.168.164
Date: 04/12/03
Time: 20:24
Well hope ur ready for this one on saturday as we've not had a game on saturday for a long time and it feels so long ago i was at cappilelow(oh that's right 8 nov forfar)COM ON E TON
Name: Broath Boy - Aberbrothock
Remote Name: 81.178.236.43
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 22:17
Yeah I'm up for going to Stirling as well. Not sure if I'm going by car, bus or train but I will be there. Not missed a Scottish Cup match in years, home or away.
Name: steeplejack
Remote Name: 195.92.168.173
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 21:04
got my works piss up in perth on the night before, but ill rumble up the perth pack(if ther still on the go) and see you all in stirling next day, cmon the lichties.
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 19:52
Yeah, i'll go to that one. C'MON LICHTIES GET TO STIRLING AND SUPPORT THE TEAM!!
Name: Swankie
Remote Name: 195.92.168.171
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 18:08
The '36-0' Supporters Club are trying to put on a bus to Stirling for the Scottish Cup 2nd Round game, on the 20th December. If you would like to come along please get in touch with Sandy (Tel.879704).
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.73.203
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 16:12
re Swankie-
He did have a good game, as he was much more unselfish. If a player (usually Diack) was in a good position he was passing the ball to them rather than trying to do it all himself (which he is prone to do). He laid the goal on a plate for Diack.
re Diack
He missed a sitter early on from another Swankie cross, but a settling in period has got to be expected. He is certainly quick and works hard. Did well to lose his man for the goal.
Overall performance
I thought we played well below par (for the strength of side we had on). It seemed we didn't hit our stride until we scored. We could have won it late on but a draw was a fairer result.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 193.63.235.191
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 14:00
From the report and from the report in today's Sun, it sounds like we were unlucky not to win it, and it also sounded like Swankie had a great game, I hope that will keep the critics off his back, and Diack sounds very promising!
Smokies and Wine!
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.14
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 10:07
The Vics got beat 7-1,No idea why Ross Graham was not in the squad,and the trialist on the bench was Kris Brash who was one of the players freed by Dundee last week.
Name: DD @fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 03/12/03
Time: 09:30
How did the Vics get on against Maryhill? Why was Ross Graham not in the squad last night??
Name:
Remote Name: 134.36.17.215
Date: 02/12/03
Time: 16:48
Its a bit wet but like Saturday the water isn't a problem as the pitch drains really well. The main problem would be the wind if it got up but it seems fine at the moment.
Name:
Remote Name: 81.77.207.17
Date: 30/11/03
Time: 18:58
Gav swankie had a hamstring injury last saturday, thats why he missed the hamilton game, + the vics were at home to maryhill in the scottish
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.87.166
Date: 30/11/03
Time: 15:03
steeple jack said ********************************************************************* Bill Lekie did a report on the financial state of every scottish club about 2 years ago, arbroath and stenhousemuir were the only clubs in the black. Bill praised us and said the club was run superbly, so credid where its due for messers christison, ripley and kinnear. *********************************************************************
Tough to praise those guys, as they have overseen the blackest period financially in the history of the club. Though I guess if Bill Leckie said it then it must be true. What would the regular members that see the balance sheet every season at the AGM know?
It seems that most of the newer ideas for bringing in some much required cash are coming from the newer members of the committee and defintely not the old guard.
Name: steeple jack
Remote Name: 195.92.168.172
Date: 30/11/03
Time: 13:24
Bill Lekie did a report on the financial state of every scottish club about 2 years ago, arbroath and stenhousemuir were the only clubs in the black. Bill praised us and said the club was run superbly, so credid where its due for messers christison, ripley and kinnear.
Name:
Remote Name: 80.47.195.164
Date: 30/11/03
Time: 12:50
the comments re swankie are on lichties news questioning his non appearance at hamilton. As regards the overdraft the committee do not have a budget so how can they possibly control cash. The new committee members are doing a good job, but sadly the old guard of christeson riply and kinnear are holding the club back, and who is it that votes to get rid of them. They do, that is why arbroath will always be held back
Name: Farflung L
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 30/11/03
Time: 11:49
Agreed with maroonie. Dundee, board, management, fans and of course the players in on the feeding frenzy were clearly living in a fool's paradise. Where did it get them - a one-sided cupfinal and the first round in UEFA Cup. And the sounds coming out from the Administrator sounds like there may be no future. I'd rather Arbroath did an East Stirling - fall to the bottom but survive rather than be dragged under. This 150,000 overdraft is a heavy burden for a struggling club with limited potential (what is it - the equivalent of 3 season's takings? I know us fans are always moaning and demanding better players but its up to the Committee to keep their eye on the ball long-term and ensure that we don't stretch things too far financially pursuing an unrealistic ideal (even Div 1 is beyond us,as much as well-oiled Brechin, I feel). They've started to communicate so real fans will understand if we have to make do. But they're always the occasional cup bonanza and maybe in the distant horizon a the occasional drug baron looking to do a bit of money laundering
Name: maroonie, arbroath
Remote Name: 213.120.56.33
Date: 29/11/03
Time: 19:10
After the revelations which have come out at Dundee FC, I will take great interest at this years AGM to see if our committee are taking any steps to reduce the reported £150,000 deficit in club funds. While this was incurred due to the need to replace the old stand, and it is a one off ( until the next time) the committee should still be taking steps to reduce, and finally repay it. I sincerely hope that they are not burying their heads in the sand , like a certain pair of brothers in Dundee, and do have a plan devised to solve this problem, because it will not go away of it's own accord. While I wish to see the club compete at the highest level possible, I for one would rather see us survive at any level, than go out of business, as I suspect might happen to Dundee FC. The Bank of Scotland have given a warning to clubs, with their refusal to throw more money at Dundee, so I say to the committee, take heed of this because those who do not start to live within their means will fall.
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 217.43.59.61
Date: 29/11/03
Time: 14:46
Typical Scottish football waiting until all the fans are either there or are ready to set off before calling the game off.
Thanks ref.
Name: Kamekazi
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 29/11/03
Time: 09:38
I didn't see any remarks about Gavin Swankie, good or ill. Has you been on the piss also? Sees to me there's a lot of goodwill among fans towards young local players like Gavin Swankie, and willingness to see them succeed. Most criticism seems to be constructive. But in GS case, a bit of frustration that he's not fulfilling his potential. May not take much but a coupla goals to give confidence and a bit more presence/strength/determination in the box. Well he's got the chance to show what he's made of whenever he comes on so it's up to him
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.166
Date: 28/11/03
Time: 15:51
Brechin are selling releasing ex-lichtie Kevin Fortheringham
Name: Mark Davies
Remote Name: 212.211.105.13
Date: 28/11/03
Time: 14:39
Some info on ARBROATH FC CARLING DAY
HELP SUPPORT THE CLUB
1pm until kick-off
Special offer on Carling Products (eg. Carling 330ml £1.50) Competitions Entertainment Children’s competitions And more
After the game
Meet The ARBROATH PLAYERS & MANAGER
29TH November V Airdrie United
ALL WELCOME AT THE SEAFORTH HOTEL
CHILDREN WELCOME WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT
Name: Kamekazi
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 27/11/03
Time: 13:33
Perform better at home? Well that's an real optimist's way of looking at it. As the team with the worst away record in the league yet miraculously not bottom, thank goodness we've scraped a few results on the sacred home turf. Bit of a test this weekend with the mighty Airdrieonians (oops that's their old name)- they're underperfoming too but better to underperfom in the opponents' half or the the top half of the league. I once got thrown out of a home game with Airdrie once for demonstrating excessive santiary hygiene (the traditional custom of bogroll throwing, once an artform). Is it time to revive this to bring back the festive homegames of yore.
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.73.219
Date: 26/11/03
Time: 21:51
I haven't seen this on the site- Euan Graham has been farmed out again to the ASC, although I notice he turned out for the reserves in their defeat at Raith.
Name: steeple jack arb
Remote Name: 195.92.168.168
Date: 25/11/03
Time: 21:58
poor dundee eh, do i feel sorry, nah, older fans will remember them raiding gayfield for Billy Pirie, John Fletcher, Stewart Forsyth and laterly Toshy, there are probably plenty others, and who did we get in return, George Makie, well thanks dundee, but cheerio cheerio cheerio!!
Name: DD@fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 25/11/03
Time: 14:52
The latest news from Dens is looking pretty desperate - about 20 players and staff sacked!! What an absolute tragedy.
I dont want to look like a vulture picking over the bones but could one or two of the younger & less expensive guys be taken on at Gayfield for a few months??
List includes Kenny Cameron, Kevin Lee, Javier Artero, Paul Mathers, Craig Burley, Fabian Caballero, Juan Sara, Fabrizio Ravanelli, Beto Carranza, Mark Robertson, Barry Forbes, Jamie Langfield, Matt Engele, Kris Brash, Colin Boylan, Georgi Nemsadze, Vander Deyl, Gavin Beith, Tom Cowan.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 23/11/03
Time: 21:37
Disappointing result on Saturday, We definelty seem to be better at home. It is encouraging to see Kirk bringing in a new face and looking to bring in some loan signings as well, with Rowe and Kerrigan as well on the sidelines as trialists. Kirk at least knows our weaknesses and is trying hard to fix them.
Maybe Rowe at the back for Stirling is not as fast as he used to be, but my worry for Arbroath is the fact that Stirling seem to be scoring for fun, and I would hope that we can shakle ex-lichite Colin McKinnon
Smokies and Wine!
Name: Marty pello
Remote Name: 81.77.233.224
Date: 23/11/03
Time: 20:10
well said Farflung ! couldn't put it any better myself !
Name: steeple jack
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 23/11/03
Time: 17:48
just watched George Rowe get turned over by a Queens Park striker,lets let durno and swankie run at this coffin dodger and get us into the next round of the cup.
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 23/11/03
Time: 10:04
Thought we deserved something out of todays game at Hamilton.The linesman was a cheat,Hamilton offside at least 6 times first half and the linesman never bothered to put his flag up once.Arbroath start the second half can you guess what with yes an offside from the same cheat of a linesman,and he couldn't keep his flag down after that.Hamiltons first goal was a bad mistake from Paul Browne,made a hash of a back pass,but we should have scored today and we have to start taking our chances.Thought our trialist striker Iain Diack from Albion Rovers was good and caused Hamilton problems with his pace.
Name: Farflung
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 23/11/03
Time: 07:34
Rather Division 3 with Arbroath than be a mindless success junkie - unless of course you happen to come from that particular corner of Glasgow, in which case, my sincere apologies (but what's wrong with Partick Thistle or Q Park?). At what point does humping every other team in Scotland become remotely interesting. There is NO competition in the Premier League so what are you wasting time and money for? If Celtic draw Arbroath in the cup, will it make you feel good putting 10 past us. It`s good to see the expensive squads of Celtic and Rangers mercenaries do relatively well in Europe -maybe the only games worth bothering about. If supporting a team is a matter of designer choice, then why not all opt for the best - maybe Real Madrid - no more connection than Celtic or Rangers has to the Old Firm camp followers with their sad sectarian baggage. Now your Second Division is a proper league with some element of uncertainty - we don't always know the outcome long before it starts. OK the fitba's generally crap but it is more character-building than another empty win against inferior opposition. (If we want fitba, you can always go abroad for that or see it on TV). I'm surprised an Old Firm saddo bothers with these webpages when there must be much higher level debates on your own sites - give me banter from Montrose or Forfar SUPPORTERS anytime.
Name: Alan Mac, Monifieth
Remote Name: 192.85.16.3
Date: 21/11/03
Time: 11:33
I believe that the Carling sponsorship deal is one of a variety of fund raising initiatives being pursued by Marc Davies, one of the new members of the Committee. The Carling deal has been worked on for months and was underway before the shirt raffle. Part of the deal is that AFC promote Carling via sales of well priced product i.e. AFC can arrange sale at less than normal pub prices but still make a good profit for the club - hence the link with the Seaforth for the coming event, which if successful could be one of many to come. It is an AFC only deal, nothing to do with the Old Firm and does not replace Bells SFL links.
The Committee, Marc in particular, are working hard on various other fund raising ideas, and we are probably the most organised in this area that we have been for years. For this, they deserve our thanks and support.
Name: Farflung Kampala
Remote Name: 217.113.72.25
Date: 21/11/03
Time: 05:56
Given our 40 year drought in the Forfarshire Cup having led the all-time winners list since inception, the thrashing from St J was hardly surprising. But is that an indication of how far we have fallen in a season? Even when outclassed in Div 1, we were taken apart on relatively few occasions. And where's the information on Carling sponsorship - does this merely replace Bells? Since Carling support the Old Firm and their dregs, I thought a campaign againat alcohol advertising in sport (but that might leave nothing). I'm surprised Buckhast don't sponsor any Scottish team.
Name: DD @fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 20/11/03
Time: 15:54
Does anyone have any details on the new sponsorship deal with Carling? Was this on the back of the shirt sponsor raffle??
Name: marty pello
Remote Name: 195.92.168.163
Date: 19/11/03
Time: 16:08
reserves lost 5 nil <4 late goals> against strong st J side
Name: Kamekazi
Remote Name: 172.190.65.234
Date: 15/11/03
Time: 07:41
And another thing. The announcements over the PA system at Gayfield need to be improved. The bloke wot does it seems a bit self-conscious but needs to articulate a bit more clearly. Shout it out mate - those around you in the stand may hear every word but we're stuggling on the terraces. And at many grounds key info - teamshetts, haltime scores, halftime draw - is announced twice so, since we miss most of the original message (sampling Gayfield's fine sanitation, queuing interminably for halftime refreshment) we definitely need it second time around, AND LOUDER AND CLEARER, OK?
Name: Graham
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 14/11/03
Time: 21:32
No Worries, I just have never seen it before, I just noticed one match when I was standing looking in the dugout, usually further away!
Name: Karen
Remote Name: 81.131.114.66
Date: 14/11/03
Time: 20:58
Graham Handing the ref a bit of paper is a directive from the SFA/SFL? and happens everywhere. I suppose they feel we don`t need the boards as the names are announced as substitutions occur. I tend to agree.
Name: al, edinbroath
Remote Name: 129.215.166.37
Date: 14/11/03
Time: 15:02
a bit of a waste of money for an electronic board... but i'll make the club some new wooden boards for a small fee
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 193.63.235.191
Date: 14/11/03
Time: 12:54
Just a passing thought.........
I wasn't at gayfield last season, so I will need some other views, but this season where have the substitution boards gone. We now hand the ref a bit of paper, which the first time I seen it looked really dodgy. It really looks unproffesional. I don't know if this is happening else where, or just at Gayfield.
Maybe we could raise money and buy the club one of those electronic ones like they use in the SPL. There isn't a huge influx of substitutions so we would only need the one.
I dunno if anyone has any thoughts...............?
Name: Farflung L
Remote Name: 172.185.104.24
Date: 11/11/03
Time: 09:20
Re Gavin Swankie, I don't quite understand the outraged remarks by untitled below. I thought the report was remarkably fair. Gaving Swankie had an OK game on Saturday, turning defenders roving around well up front - and this the first full game back - BUT it must also be acknowledged that he does exert any physical presence (which his skills deserve)and certainly never threatens goal. He could be a great winger if he worked on the crossing. This is not to knock the young players but merely to point out galring gaps in thier game. He is still an asset for Arbroath and has potential to be more. But surely on our OWN website, the match reporters should be allowed to state a few facts or at least well-substantiated opinions? As for stirring up some artificial discrimination older versus younger players, we clearly need both.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.168
Date: 10/11/03
Time: 18:49
Swankie would not claim his match on Saturday was his best ever but I would have to agree too that the comments were a bit on the harsh side, it is his first starting appearance in the first team for a couple of weeks and that he is working his way towards full match fitness. John McGlashan is a great motivator and a true professional and it was great to see him acknowledge Gavin when he went off for Herkes. I think it is good for Arbroath that Henslee, McMullen and Swankie all in the first team and Durno and Farquharson on the sidelines, I hope that we see more youngsters coming thru the ranks, and that Andy Webster is a good hero for them all.
Name:
Remote Name: 80.47.207.216
Date: 10/11/03
Time: 17:55
i think the comments of the match reporter particularly the ones in regard to Gavin Swankies contribution are a disgrace. He had a perfectly good game on Sat not brilliant but contributed. I think the people doing the match reports should report on the game and keep their smart asses comments to themselves. It is very easy to criticritisise in a sarcastic manner but it is the way of the coward. Basically the person doing it sees himself as a fountain of knowledge on football, i seem to remember the same type of comment being levied at John McGlashan, Colin McGlashan flo etc etc., what type of team would we have if we listened to every whim
Name: DD@fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 10/11/03
Time: 16:47
Is it possible to get any stills or even footage (sorry Gavin using up all your storage & bandwidth) of event from Sky - licensing rights permitting!!!
Those who suggested the raffle and the comitte guys who took it forward deserve great credit for showing such imagination & determination.
Could this now become an annual feature for the away strip - assuming we can now get a shirt sponsor for next season after all this superb publicity.
Name: Not the Ginger One!
Remote Name: 134.36.145.189
Date: 10/11/03
Time: 13:41
I would 1st of all like to say congratulations to the winners of the raffle who will now be sponsoring the Arbroath home and away strips. 2ndly, I would to congratulate the Arbroath footie boys for an excellent result against Alloa on Saturaday. It was a fine performance. We were able to create chances and score goals this week (which has been lacking this season). Keep it up boys.
Name: AnonoMOus
Remote Name: 81.128.241.234
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 22:52
mikesmokieland, yes you are right and I believe he will feature against Raith tomorrow.
Name: Gary Callon, AFC Committee
Remote Name: 212.67.106.156
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 19:32
Congratulations to Adviva and Falconers Family Butchers. I would just like to say thank you to everyone who entered the shirt sponsorship raffle and for making it such a success. I would like to also thank those who worked really hard to sell tickets, with special thanks to Margaret Reid and Steve Swankie for their efforts. I would also like to acknowledge the work involved with the online ticket sales which made a noteable contribution to the number of tickets that were entered into the draw. There were several late entries made on Friday and I even took a call at 1am on Saturday morning to ask if another entry could be placed into the draw. I had a great time down at Soccer AM. Tim and Helen were really nice, as was everyone else who works with the show. Thanks again.
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 15:13
Well done to ADVIVA and FALCONERS for winning the sponsorship draw,when can we expect the new strips in the club shop with the sponsors name on them.
Name: Alan Mac, Monifieth
Remote Name: 192.85.16.2
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 13:55
Chatted with some of the Committee yesterday and can confirm that nearly £9,000 was raised by shirt sponsorship raffle ticket sales which should create a profit of just over £8,000 after expenses. I'm sure that I speak for more than myself when I offer my thanks to all those that bought tickets. Congratulations to Adviva & Falconers, but the support from all of the local businesses that bought tickets is very greatly appreciated. Thank-you from the fans.
Can also confirm that ALL of this season's matches now have sponsors, and that the Committee continue to develop further sponsorship and fund-raising ideas. Let's not underestimate the effort & commitment that this takes, or the difference that this could make to the Manager's ability to maintain & develop the squad. Well done and thanks to the relevant Committee members.
Name: Fiona McKinnon
Remote Name: 217.207.188.146
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 12:53
As the winner of the raffle on socceram yesterday morning, I just wanted to say I am still in shock!! I am from Arbroath and have supported Arbroath both home and away for many seasons, so can't believe my company's name will now be on the shirts. Adviva is an online advertising company based in London, and although I now lived down here and watch Fulham on Saturday afternoons, everyone I meet knows about the Lichties and watches for the scores! I hope that I will make it up to Gayfield for the next home game, with the other guys from my office and we look forward to being very proud sponsors of the Arbroath home kit.
Name: Kamekaze
Remote Name: 172.191.235.127
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 03:10
That was a bit uplifting today in the wind and the (occasional rain). Scoring twice in the first 10 minutes is the best start in years and they showed a bit of grit and determination to keep Alloa out (couple of last gasp clearance/saves) though the Alloa score was sloppy. Some folks never happy. Thought we had a real chance to give them a thrashing, to help our morale. Henslee is back to his best, Cargill real busy (and a touch of class), Swankie looked good in places (but needs more confidence). Note our three top scorers did the business again - would like to see a couple of the others on the sheet. But, we were the better of two mediocre teams. With this league being so tight these 6 pointers against relegation rivals are so crucial so let's keep doing them damage. And we're the only team in this league without an away win so time to rectify that soon. Fine Lichties
Name: winston
Remote Name: 195.137.93.113
Date: 09/11/03
Time: 00:28
A better result today and a general improvement in the team.They are hopefully starting to gel together due to consistancy in team selection and positioning (although Andy Dow seems to be slightly confused as to where he should be playing).
Good to see the likes of Cargill and Henslee giving their all but particular mention must be given to John McGlashan. If we had a few more of him in the team we would be much better off ( no, I'm not his mum)
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.167
Date: 08/11/03
Time: 22:05
Good day for Arbroath today on and off the pitch, I never seen Soccer AM, but if the sum is what was reported as an earlier entry then 8000grand is a lot better than nothing.
I think that would maybe my first choice line up for Arbroath today, with the current squad, maybe Cuisk in the midfield, when fit, but on today's display, McGlashan, Cargill, Dow, and Henslee were in top form. They all over something different, and I thought the determination and workrate of Henslee was amazing today. The Back four played well, and King gets better by each match. Graham played well upfront, Swankie did well, but perhaps needs more match practice after his injury, and well Peat had some fantastic saves.
We played well, but Alloa were poor, I think we need to build on this performance and we can take a lot out of it. We must have cleared twice off the line and if they had went in it may have been a different story. Only grumble is that sometimes we have possesion in space, but sometimes it feels like there is lack of support.
Great result today lads, hope you can keep it up! Smokies and Wine
Name: al, edinbroath
Remote Name: 129.215.16.11
Date: 08/11/03
Time: 17:00
couldnt go to the game, but glad 2 see arbroath back to winning ways... and scoring ways!!! shame we couldnt keep a clean sheet, damn last minute goals again, but well done arbroath! keep it up.
also, sma = PTS :P
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 08/11/03
Time: 12:14
Anyone know who the trialist striker is,who scored a hat-trick midweek for the reserves and could feature today,is it Calum Watson who was on trial with Montrose pre-season and plays for Montrose Roslea.
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.87.167
Date: 08/11/03
Time: 11:05
Over 8k brought in according to Soccer AM.
1st team -Aviva (SP?)
change kit- Falconer Family Butchers
both Arbroath.
Name:
Remote Name: 139.133.7.37
Date: 08/11/03
Time: 00:51
kevin mcmullan is a great asset to the team, what a player
Name: on the edge
Remote Name: 193.113.48.9
Date: 06/11/03
Time: 13:55
team v east fife for monday nights 5-0 romp.. woodcock, newall, mcaulay ,browne, euan graham, herkes,durno mcglashan, farquharson swankie & trialist. innes replaced mcglashan on 65mins. and walker replaced swankie in 75mins. scorers were trialist (3) swankie & mcglashan....
Name: DD@fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 05/11/03
Time: 09:48
How many shirt sponsor raffle tickets has the website ended up with and what is going on the shirts if we win? Anyone any idea of how many tickets have been sold as it is now past the cut off date??
Name: AnonoMOus
Remote Name: 81.128.205.42
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 23:01
Me again, but I have information regarding your other person in attack. The scorer of three goals was non other than a Montrose based junior trialist who scored two goals for Montrose in pre season friendly not to be asked back. Would give me great pleasure if AFC signed him for the obvious reasons thath montrose fans hate the way their club is being run.
Name:
Remote Name: 81.131.161.29
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 21:10
ROSS GORDON WAS THE BEST SIGNING FOR UNDER 17'S AT ONLY 14 HE HE IS FULLY COMPELED TO PLAY FOR THE TEAM! COME ON GORDON!
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.87.187
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 20:45
re reserve game.
I heard that Swankie got one, and possibly McGlashan.
I was told that we didn't have that strong a team out. I believe Woodcock was in goal with Newall and Graham FB's. Browne also played in defence. McGlashan, Herkes, Durno made up the midfield with Farqhuson, Swankie and another striker making up the attack. I cannot remember who else played in defence. With our small pool, it was pretty much what you'd expect (no Cargill, no Cusick, no Graham, no Peat, no McMullen). Farqhuson was supposedly very impressive.
I heard we played well, although I'm unaware of the ages of the East Fife team, but we had 5 or 6 guys under 21. I'm just glad that somebody was able to find the net and hope some of it translates in the league games.
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 194.117.133.9
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 19:25
Anyone know the scorers or the team we played at last nights reserve game against East Fife,there was nothing in the courier today.Someone below said that it was 5-0 Arbroath.
Name: AnonoMOus
Remote Name: 81.128.205.42
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 17:11
For gods sake have a sense of humour. i know the draw is live.
Name: Laird o Elliot Quick theres Sand
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 14:02
A couple of points to make after reading the bilge that some of these psychiatric prolls have stated;;; to AnonoMous who must live 11 miles up the road in Shitsville, how in stupiditys name is the Draw going to be fixed when its live on Soccer AM....they must have left the gates open again at Sunnyside and you escaped numpty. What is the point in Arbroath fans organising a testimonial for FLO when the man concerned cannot be ARSED in replying to people that are trying to put more money in his Sky Rocket.....By the way you will spot him slumped in a comfy chair in Jollys on a Seterday nicht,as if he doesnt dae enough sitting doon on a widden bench every Seterday afternoon......and last but not least,A.who is Garry, and B, how is this character called Ross Gordon going to lead us to the promised land..... it reminded me of the movie called HARVEY about a bloke who things that a BIG FURRY BUNNY RABBIT TALKS TO HIM.. there must have been a mass breakout up the road in the past week,quickly lets all batten down the hatches until 3oclock Seterday......
Name: Swankie '36-0'
Remote Name: 64.154.26.248
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 13:45
Whats with all the negative shouting from the fans at matches? At Berwick on Saturday thats all I could hear coming from our side of the 'stand'! Maybe if more people encouraged the side, then they might respond more effectively!
Come on Lichties!!
Name: Granty - in the kingdom
Remote Name: 193.130.58.93
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 13:08
Oh and a near first team beat East Fife's near youth team 5-0 last night in a reserve game.
Name: Granty - In the Kingdom
Remote Name: 193.130.58.93
Date: 04/11/03
Time: 13:02
I understand that James Herkes, fresh from his best performance v Dumbarton was not even on the bench on Saturday until George Shaw pulled his hamstring during the warm up. James was taken from the pub to get changed. He is also thoroughly hacked off playing wide on the left.
Name: Kamekazi, on the edge
Remote Name: 202.53.163.131
Date: 03/11/03
Time: 14:09
Aaaaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhhh. Another more than disappointing result in a deeply disappointing season. When will the painful and extended agony of underachievement come to an end. Tired of looking for pluses (did Saturday's result flatter the opposition. What we need is more human sacrifices or maybe guerilla smash and grabs. If we're going down it had better be in flames with all guns firing. I start to worry about our return game against in-from Forfar whom we played off the park 2 months back to end up with a goalless draw. It's too late to hope it all comes right with our reasonably good squad. So we had better start battling. Bbbbaaaannnzzzaaaiiii
Name:
Remote Name: 195.92.168.167
Date: 02/11/03
Time: 16:48
If we need a bit more fight in the middle,why not bring Scott Peters back from Tayport. He wasn't the most skillful player in the team,but he could win the ball and mix it when the going got tough.I have it on good authority he would jump at the chance to come back. He only left because JB didn't like him. He always gave 110% every game, and this is the kind of players we want.
Name: Allan W, Arbroath
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 02/11/03
Time: 14:55
Ill tell Stevie k where to find him. He was at Glebe Park, sitting two rows behind me in the stand at the Brechin City against Ross County game which I attended on Saturday. He was training with Brechin in the morning and im told will sign for them on Monday by one local City fan.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.163
Date: 02/11/03
Time: 11:52
The Sunday Mail reports that "Arbroath caretaker manager Stevie Kirk is trying to track down Marc Millar after the experienced midfielders return home from Australia. Kirk reckons the veteran can help the gayfield men back on their feet after the resignation of John Brownlie and is desperate to find a contact number for the ex-Dunfermline star"
Name: scot,arbroath
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 01/11/03
Time: 08:44
how did the scotland ticket sale at safeway go this morning? went down at 8.15,sold out. was there any tickets, if so how many or did senga and gertie on the checkouts get them all?
Name: AnonoMOus
Remote Name: 81.128.27.172
Date: 30/10/03
Time: 23:19
Rumor has it that the shirt sponsor draw has been fixed. seemingly it is going to be the ever popular (Links Park Dynamo) that will appear ot the hallowed maroon shirts for the coming season. I will take bets if you want.
Name: Gary Callon, AFC Committee
Remote Name: 212.67.110.137
Date: 30/10/03
Time: 19:07
The shirt sponsorship raffle draw will take place on Soccer AM on Saturday 8th November. We are therefore setting a deadline that all tickets should be handed into Gayfield by close of business on Wednesday the 5th of November. This should allow enough time for the tickets to be sent down to the TV studio. Could anyone who has kindly taken tickets and offered to sell them on our behalf take note of this and have the tickets handed in by then. Thanks.
Name: Farflung, Dhaka
Remote Name: 64.110.110.245
Date: 30/10/03
Time: 13:53
The signing of Shaw and Kerrigan raises the question - is experience more useful than youth in the lower leagues? Arbroath's storming season 2 yeasr ago in Div 1 relied heavily on oldtimers such as McKinnon, Rowe, Mallen as well as some of the current bunch. McGlashan is the first Lichtie featuring in the scoring charts for some years. Brownlie got a lot of (probably unjustified) stick for not giving youth its fling but Henslee and McMullen apart, none of the others has contributed significantly or consistenly. We were justifiably proud of the products of the youth system and they are useful squad players but not sufficiently productive to be at the core. So is relying on ageing journeymen pros the way to survive at this level?
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 28/10/03
Time: 15:36
What about Queens Park with ex Lichties Steve Moffat who we should have kept,and Steve Fallon.
Name: Farflung Lichtie
Remote Name: 64.110.110.245
Date: 28/10/03
Time: 14:21
Not to mention George Rowe. That would be a real test since they're running away with Div 3. And I can recall going out to Stirling in the cup at least a couple of times (often a replay required). Still, emboldened by our improved League Cup performance nothing is impossible
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.172
Date: 27/10/03
Time: 17:40
I guess we will be up against Colin McKinnon and Stirling if they beat Queen's Park
Name:
Remote Name: 195.188.152.10
Date: 27/10/03
Time: 16:08
Scottish cup draw Stirling Albion or Queen's Park v Arbroath December 20th
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.12
Date: 26/10/03
Time: 16:36
Greg Henslee got the man of the match yesterday,i thought Andy Cargill was MOTM,but well done to Henslee.Didn't play that well yesterday but we played better than Dumbarton and got the points and now we are only 9 points off second top.George Shaw done well but is lacking Match fitness,don't think we should re-sign Kerrigan he wasn't that good before so why have him back.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.166
Date: 26/10/03
Time: 11:43
A hard fought win yesterday, it wasn't pretty but we got 3 points.
Slight encouragment has to be taken from the fact that Kirk knows our striking problems and has at least made measures to try and improve it.
Smokies and Wine
Name:
Remote Name: 212.39.165.16
Date: 24/10/03
Time: 22:29
What about Scott Taylor of Forfar ??? Could he do a job for us as he doesn't seem to feature for the Loons at the moment.
Name: Farflung, Kathmandu
Remote Name: 202.79.62.15
Date: 24/10/03
Time: 13:10
Agreed - the team is trying so deserve encouragement. Since the first game, I think we should be able to match most teams (except Morton, Airdrie) but have not been able to capitalise (turn draws into wins). We need key players to be fit and a bit of luck to turn it around and go on a run. So yes they need all the encoruagement going. As for casting aspersions on the sainted memory of Colin McGlashan - anyone who scores regularly for Arbroath is a hero (and damn few of those). McGlashans have done well for us so maybe a family check would yield the next striker. C'way the Lichties - I'll be following on the BBC internet videoprinter/World Service radio
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 23/10/03
Time: 18:54
Why is our support week in week out so awful? Im not just talking about the size of it either. The atmophere at Gayfield these days is crap. Remember when we were near the bottem of Div3 10 years ago and every week there was a great support at Gayfield with singing for 90mins? Instead these days all that happens is moaning at the players constantly. Why not get behind the team and create an atmosphere? If we did then maybe we would get more support each week. Lets encourage the players and get a few songs going on Saturday. It's a crunch game against Dumarton, who I think are easily worse than us, and maybe if we encourage the lads they might respond with better football to watch. LETS GET BEHIND THE LADS ON SATURDAY. SUPPORT THE TEAM INSTEAD OF CRITICIZING THEM CONSTANTLY. AWAY THE LICHTIES!!!
Name: Granty - In the Kingdom
Remote Name: 217.137.251.17
Date: 22/10/03
Time: 18:55
The source that told me P Browne was involved in certain phone calls tells me that Stevie Kirk was more of a No.2 to John Brownlie than an assistant
Name: Sye Webbo fae the 'broath
Remote Name: 80.189.52.230
Date: 21/10/03
Time: 19:37
After reading all the statements below i hope "Farflung" is not slagging Colin McGlashan as he was in his "twighlight" years when he scored the goals to keep us in the 2nd division and also the goals to get us promoted to the 1st division. This leads me on to say that sometimes you need an "experienced" striker rather than a youngster to score goals when you are struggling and in George Shaws case he has done this in all his career (just like Dibble McGlashan) apart from one season at Forfar. I would love to see another experienced striker at Gayfield Park in Paul Tosh as apart from scoring goals Tosh also has PACE and that is something which is lacking at Arbroath FC.. I would agree with the "Laird 0 Elliot" in that apart from Morton all the other clubs which Arbroath FC have played in the league this season have not impressed me and this makes it all the more dissapointing. I think we have a good goalkeeper and our defence is well covered, our midfield (when Cusick is fit) is excellent and it is only our forward line which needs strengthened. Another player who i would like to see at Gayfield could be Paddy Flannery who would leave Dumbarton if giving a chance as the fans slate him there for some reason? (although he has been their top goalscorer for years).
Name: Laird o Elliot Nae sand just cement
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 21/10/03
Time: 14:29
Another unglorious failure on Saturday,and absolutly nothing for us Maroonies to get aroused aboot.The annoying thing about this season is apart from Morton, the teams we have encountered have been as bad or not worse than us, which makes the feeling of continual defeat even harder to accept...And finding out that ex\lichties are scoring for fun at other clubs,does not make the hurt any easier.Im a great believer in looking forward and not back,so the players who have left and are doing a job for someone else are doing it in a league below us,ie COLIN MCKINNON..SO could they have still done a job for us,,we will of course never know the answer to the question..but we are all aware already this season,that not one of our favourites is going to give us 20 goals a season,and I am going to be controversial and say when will one of our :home bred youngsters: start lasting 90 minutes and put their own stamp on a game. Coming off the bench and making a contribution is all well and good, but its aboot time some of them began at 3 o clock, and came off the pitch at 4.45 soaking in sweat.It would benefit the club and team mates, and themselves when bigger clubs come hunting for young talent,ie A.Webster esquire....
Name: Billy mchardy / offshore
Remote Name: 62.189.158.225
Date: 21/10/03
Time: 12:27
I think we need a new manager to get the most out of the players as I do not think that stevie kirk will get the respect or the commitment out of them. Also, we hardly have a pool of players big enough to generate the need to perform to be included in the squad as the players we have are pretty much guaranteed a starting place anyway. We need to find the right man for the job, who may have the ability to find decent players on a budget as tight as ours, someone who can gain the respect of the players and supporters. I think all the youngsters should be given a chance to prove themselves if they are ready for first team action as it looks like we need some competition for places in the team . All this talk of getting old players like shaw are just daft, next somebody will be trying to lure super ally out of retirement, let’s not rush in and sign any old dumplin as we have had our share of them over the past few seasons.
Name: Farflung
Remote Name: 202.79.62.15
Date: 21/10/03
Time: 04:56
Why should Colin McKinnon (or Jim Mercer or even Stevie Amman) return to Arbroath when there teams are on the up. I am not totally joking when I suggest Paul Brownlie who did not a bad job in the lower leagues (and before his dad became manager) - no such constraint now. That should be controversial. At least no-one suggesting Colin mcGlashan
Name: FOXTON
Remote Name: 194.203.128.61
Date: 21/10/03
Time: 03:25
I agree George Shaw would be a good signing, or lets get back a player who should never have been allowed to leave Gayfield Park :- Colin McKinnon, now banging in goals for fun at Stirling Albion.
Name: FOXTON
Remote Name: 194.203.128.61
Date: 20/10/03
Time: 03:28
The big problem with the Red Lichties just now is that apart from "Bull" Graham, we have no strikers. Although Swankie,Herkes and Durno are forward players none of them are out & out strikers. Brownlie when he was here was only signing defenders and midfielders as opposed to getting more goalscorers. Also not having John Cusick just now is a major blow as he is one of our top players and also a goal threat. I thought Andy Cargill was our best player against the Fifers closely followed by King, McMullan & Dow. One thing i would say was at least there was a lot more fight on Saturday than of late. Just now if Graham or McGlashan (or Cussie when fit) do not score we are stuck. WE NEED TO SIGN STRIKERS - AND SOON
Name: EFFC
Remote Name: 62.31.98.213
Date: 19/10/03
Time: 22:44
Small support?.....At least half of the crowd were East Fife supporters,so that doesn`t say much about the home support. Agree that we were poor,but we had more clear cut chances and should have won more convincingly.
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.73.217
Date: 19/10/03
Time: 19:34
A terrible display yesterday!
Only two AFC players showed the required commitment in my opinion (Cargill and McMullen). If Kirk cannot get them to at least run around then he has got to go (should have gone when Brownlie went anyway).
East Fife were poor, but they at least had someone who knew how to put a ball in a net. Funny how they managed to get him (Nicholas) while we sat on our hands.
I hope we can start to turn it around next week, but with barely a striker on our books it isn't looking to good right now.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.170
Date: 19/10/03
Time: 18:34
It was a case of hard luck yesterday. The few lichties who seen the game, seen a hard working Lichtie team who huffed and puffed for 90 minutes. Dow or Cargill were my men of the match, as they both were always on the ball, but at the same time a lot of passes going astray. We lacked movement at set peices and R. Graham missing upfront really didn't help us. It was encouraging to see a few shots fly in from outside the 18 yarder as some of them were pretty close, and all it needs is a deflection to end up in the net. I also think their forward knew what he was doing and dived so Rennie would be sent off, both challenges very soft.
I think we need some luck, 99.9% of teams who lose their manager always seem to win the next match, we didn't. East Fife had a small but loud support, and had to be given credit for picking up on our sponsership deal, and singing "where's your sponsor gone?"
Kirk has the same squad as Brownlie so not much can be improved on the pitch, but he defently wasn't as vocal as Brownlie, and seemed to given more encouragement.
Overall we deserved a point, and I am sure glad that Browne re-signed, as with Denham retiring and now Rennies suspension looming, he has been a key asset to the team.
C'mon the Lichties - smokies and wine
Name: Fifelichtie - Kent
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 17/10/03
Time: 21:49
Good luck to Steve Kirk and the boys tomorrow. Kirk's departure from Bayview a few years ago should ensure that everyone is properly motivated.
3 points in the bag !!!
Name: relieved sheep
Remote Name: 62.6.114.70
Date: 17/10/03
Time: 19:28
To put things on a lighter note. The Aberdeen FC team barbecue has been cancelled as people were turning away in droves when they heard that they would be 'roasting' a sheep
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 17/10/03
Time: 18:57
Cheers for that I might go to that one.
Name: Farflung, Kathmandu
Remote Name: 202.79.62.15
Date: 17/10/03
Time: 13:16
This quality versus geography issue seems a bit heated. Tend to agree that young locals would be ideal but may be thin on the ground. What Lichties followers demand is success (call that lack of failure) so whatever achieves that, provides it does not jeopardise the longterm existence of the club is sufficient - not that it is being fulfilled right now. For the past 30 years, Arbroath teams have always had a fair quota of west-coast based part-timers. The issue is no different to the top clubs - for instance, amusing to see Rangers fans accepting Italian/Spanish catholics so long as they're good and we know how few Scottish internationals get a game for either Old Firm. I read that some clubs (including Montrose?) had, as a cost-saving and perhaps team-building measure decided to engage players from the region. How do Arbroath manage their training - do all players get along to Gayfeld on Tuesdays and Wednesdays or do some distant ones train with other clubs? Anyway, I don't give a toss who plays on Saturday as long as they grind out a result against the fly Fifers. Would a win would be too much to expect?
Name: realist, Arbroath
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 16/10/03
Time: 22:07
Not me thats the plonker. As Always, it is the Fool that prooves the rule. The reason that you are able to pass commnent on the 'quality' of the Arbroath players, without looking more stupid than you already appear to be, is by passing comment on their ability, results and league position WITHOUT needing to take into account where they actually live. Sorry if that was too hard for you to understand first time round. Are you gerneraly stupid or just genetically predisposed to stupidity .. in other words .. are you a Brechin or Forfar supporter?
Name: To Realist
Remote Name: 195.92.168.166
Date: 16/10/03
Time: 19:45
As stated by "realist", "However .. lets recognise that the important word there is GOOD and not LOCAL. All other things being equal then heyyy .. go for local players. But.. unless all other things ARE equal then lets go for as much QUALITY as possible". Aye min well said! plonker, thats how you are second bottom of the league heading down to play the likes of Montrose and East stirling. With 4 wins out of your last 44 it really looks like that you've signed Quality What a puddin.
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 194.117.133.9
Date: 16/10/03
Time: 18:22
Don't agree with the kick off time of 12 for the away game at Hamilton on November 15, the same day as the Scotland V Holland game.Most clubs are playing on the Friday night or the Sunday.The match will finish say 1.50pm,which gives you 1 hour ten to get back to Arbroath for the start of the Scotland game.
Name: This is the Truth
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 16/10/03
Time: 13:25
Regarding the Resignation of Youth Co-ordinator Gordon Wallace.
Over the past years I have attended many of our Youth and Reserve matches, so I feel in a position to state some facts. Three years ago when our Youth side had a very succesful season, almost all their games were at Gayfield. This season they have not been played there at all. When Gordon Wallace took charge they were full-time, now we are all part-time. They also had a young lad called Keith, who helped Gordon,now he is on his own. In recent matches at Condor, visiting sides have 3 or 4 coaches with them, while we ask one person to do everything (no wonder he packed it in). Anybody going to matches will know Gordon has still got bags of enthusiasm for the game and no doubt he will remain in football. Lets hope Mike Cargill gets better support in the future.
Name: Mark - Inverclyde
Remote Name: 217.16.209.49
Date: 15/10/03
Time: 23:13
Fond memories of travelling to Arbroath as a nipper in the early 70's to watch Celtic
Always a tough match (usually 2-1 or 2-2).
Good lucj.
Name: realist, Arbroath
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 14/10/03
Time: 22:21
Good for Darren Spink, and good for Montrose if he turns out to be a good signing for them. Hopefully he was signed because their manager thought he would be a decent addition to the squad and not because he happened to live down the road.
Name:
Remote Name: 195.188.152.10
Date: 14/10/03
Time: 21:20
Darren Spink has signed for Montrose
Name: realist, Arbroath
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 14/10/03
Time: 20:56
I note that the small minded parochial thinking lives on in the Website News. It should be possible to critisise or praise any or all the players on their individual merits .. but .. to bemone the exodus of Steve Florence and Daren Spink because they were local players!!! Giz a Break!! Would that be the same Steve Florence who is now playing for Forfar reserves and has been replaced by David King at left back?? Or Darren Spink who is now still looking for a Club and has been replaced by either Paul Brown or Steven Rennie at Centre Half?? An Arbroath team composed of good local players is a great ideal. An Arbroath team composed of good YOUNG local Players would be even more ideal. However .. lets recognise that the important word there is GOOD and not LOCAL. All other things being equal then heyyy .. go for local players. But.. unless all other things ARE equal then lets go for as much quality as possible. At least then as supporters we can argue the toss over how good, bad or indifferent a player is without appearing ever so slightly narrow minded.
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 62.30.192.1
Date: 14/10/03
Time: 15:46
Arbroath lost 4-2 last night to Montrose.
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 13/10/03
Time: 16:47
Is it definately on Karen and what times KO?
Name: Karen
Remote Name: 81.135.99.90
Date: 13/10/03
Time: 16:34
Shirt sponsorship raffle tickets will be on sale in the club shop tonight.
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 13/10/03
Time: 16:25
Will it be between 7:30 and 8:00 for kick-off?
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.14
Date: 13/10/03
Time: 14:59
Arbroath playing Montrose tonight at Gayfield in the reserve league not sure what time kick off is.
Name: Aye No Bad.
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 12/10/03
Time: 13:46
RE SHIRT SPONSER-- why didnt they do this when it was first suggested at the begining of the season? probably would have made more money then. Maybe there finally listening to the fans.
Name: David, Edinburgh
Remote Name: 82.41.25.189
Date: 12/10/03
Time: 12:16
Good weekend for arbroath, you managed to negotiate a saturday without defeat!!! Well done!
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.166
Date: 12/10/03
Time: 12:01
Arbroath are in the Sunday Mail today.
Firstly Paul Browne is in a team of people who say have acted a little strange.
Secondly reports Greig Denham is quiting Football to join the police.
Thirdly a small advert for the sponsership raffle
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 62.30.0.3
Date: 11/10/03
Time: 13:48
Sounds a good idea,and i will be buying a ticket.I hope the club go back to the 50 firms who turned them down a get them to buy a couple of tickets each.And lets hope there's posters about the draw in suppermarkets,pubs etc to create intrest.
Name: AFC
Remote Name: 212.67.109.67
Date: 11/10/03
Time: 12:26
On Soccer AM on Sky Sports this morning it was announced that Arbroath FC are holding a raffle type draw for the name on the shirt. 1st Prize is the name on the home shirt and 2nd prize is the name on the away shirt. Tickets are £25 each or 5 for £100. Tickets can be obtained by sending in name, address and desired sponsorship name for the shirt along with payment to Gayfield. Personal callers to Gayfield will also be welcome. Draw tickets will be sent out by return post. A printable draw voucher for filling in and sending in will also be available soon on both of the websites. The Winning draw will be made live on Soccer AM on Saturday 8th November. There is no limit to the number of tickets that can be bought and entered but the sponsorship name is subject to approval by Arbroath FC, the SFL and the SFA to safeguard against anything offensive being entered.
Name:
Remote Name: 195.92.168.173
Date: 11/10/03
Time: 11:55
Looks like the club are having a draw for shirt sponsership £25 a ticket or 5 for £100.
Name:
Remote Name: 212.67.108.187
Date: 10/10/03
Time: 21:06
Tune into Soccer AM on Sky Sports 1 on Saturday morning to hear news regarding the Arbroath FC shirt sponsorship.
Name: simonlichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 10/10/03
Time: 17:49
Yeah I live in the ferry some great places to eat here. Try AllStars or the Gulistan.
Name: DD@fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 10/10/03
Time: 16:46
East Fife guy - I would go to Broughty Ferry some cracking Indian resturants & good pubs
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 10/10/03
Time: 14:51
Does anyone know who we play in the Forfarshire Cup??
Name: DD@fc
Remote Name: 194.159.3.6
Date: 10/10/03
Time: 11:34
John Brownlie deserves much credit for the dignified manner in which he left the club. I too have good memories of the "early years" Firhill, Brockville etc
Name: al
Remote Name: 129.215.166.37
Date: 09/10/03
Time: 22:27
FAO Cammy EFFC,
McDonalds - West Way :P
Name: Happy Brechiner
Remote Name: 80.1.8.251
Date: 09/10/03
Time: 20:21
In reply to "realist" from Arbroath. How does he know Brechin spent vast sums of money? The only player they spent a trenfer fee on was Grant Johnston. And unlike Lichtieland, there are few (if any) City fans shouting for the manager's head, because they aren't fickle enough to forget the job he has one in the last three years.
Name: bill smith
Remote Name: 193.63.235.191
Date: 09/10/03
Time: 09:27
The thing that always puzzled me with brownlie was the claimed friendships with other mangers and agents which promised much but ended up with very little decent signings. While i dont think the local lads are fautless they should have been given more oppurtunties instead of bringing in another average player. We all know that brownlie had little respect from the majority of players , proven by the number of fall outs throught the years. Oh and paul Brownlie was nt hounded out for being a daddys boy he was hounded out cause he was piss!
Name: Cammy EFFC
Remote Name: 62.31.108.127
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 21:56
Staying in Carnoustie Friday and Saturday for the East Fife match.Any good restaurants in Arbroath? Good luck to Steve Kirk,know him and Dave Gorman well and I`m sure they will do a good job.....AFTER we beat you next Saturday.
Name: wendy arbroath
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 21:37
Well said 'realist'. Good luck J.B. for the future. Sorry to hear that Gordon Wallace has resigned also, hope to see you now and again at Gayfield 'stumpy' and interrupt some of your radio broadcasts! I would like to take this opportunity to wish Stevie Kirk and Jake Ferrier all the best, lets see us climbing up the table to where we belong.
Name:
Remote Name: 12.44.211.162
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 18:44
the onion was always out of his depth! a lack of "people skills" cost him the dressing room season upon season. i'm sure there are no sad faces in the dressing room to see the Onion leave! I know i'm not! the boys will turn things around, guys like Dowser, cargil and Big McGlash will do whats needed to raise spirits. McAulay and Cusick will be the leaders we all know them to be. Give Steve Kirk the job, he was always the brains behind the Brownlie operation. good luck fellas, i'll be keeping tabs as ever from across the pond! all the best!
Name: Karen
Remote Name: 81.135.120.43
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 14:44
Having spoken to Gordon Wallace I can confirm that his resignation was handed in last Wednesday, nothing to do with Steve Kirk being on the bench.
I also think John Brownlie had a couple of great seasons with us and thank him for those. No-one could doubt his passion or enthusiasm for the game, but in his own words I think the time was right for him to go.
Name: mikesmokieland
Remote Name: 195.188.152.16
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 12:53
Have to agree a little with Grant and realist,Brownlie deserves some credit for his first two seasons,but last season and this season have been his downfall and i am glad he has left.A few bad signings Fallon,Gardner,Connaghen,Gow etc,cost the club alot of money,so he has to take some of the blame for having no money to spend on playeers.So who now Steve Kirk has taken over as manager for now,but i would go for a fresh start,the only people i can think of out of a job are Paul Hegarty,Dave McPherson,Dave Winnie and Billy McLaren,or even Steve Guppy and Bobby Peta as player managers (only joking). Simon Lichtie- Sye Webster i think runs the 36-0 club supportes team.
Name: Kev in Livingston
Remote Name: 62.172.45.2
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 08:41
Credit must go to Brownlie for getting AFC into the 1st Div. More credit must be given to him for keeping us there for 2 seasons. He has also been unfortunate with injuries to several of his key players. He also had to work within the tight financial budget given to him.
However, his downfall is that over this season and last he has underachieved with the players he had at his disposal. No one expected to stay in Div 1 for long, however it was the manner in which we were relegated that was hard to take. Also, his tactics over that period can also be called into question. He is constantly tinkering with the system and his substitutions leave alot to be desired. He does not have the best track record when it comes to signing players, something you need when you have little or no money.
Congratulations to Brownlie for all he has achieved at AFC. We will all remember stuffing Falkirk at Brockville to condemn the to "relegation" but I think it was time for him to go.
The only question left now, "Who will replace him?". Martin O'Neill is linked with ever other job.
Name: Farflung L
Remote Name: 172.187.212.252
Date: 08/10/03
Time: 08:23
Great to see an Arbroath side dominate a game last night at Bayview. They showed great attitude and commitment (a lot of shouting) but it was only our virtual first tream versus their reserves and we scraped through 2-3. Kirk. Ferrier and Gorman seemed to be calling the shots
Name: realist, Arbroath
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 23:32
Have to agree to some extent with Grant from Arbroath. Brownlie probably had many faults as a manager and one of those was being so overtly passionate about getting the players to do what he asked them to do on the pitch. Perhaps the shouting was a bit OTT but at least you could see (and hear!!) that he was wanting the players to pass the ball and to make chances. I didnt personaly hear him asking anything that might not reasonably be expected of an Arbroath player. The small minded parochial attitude of some of the supporters at times is awsome. Gavin Swankie (for example) can fail to hold the ball up 9 times out of 10 ... but then on the 10th attempt link up and create something positive. Paul Durno (for example) can be spectacularly good against Falkirk .. and spectacularly anonomous against Stenhousemuir. Ewan Graham (for example) can be consistantly inconsistant at first team and reserve team matches. BUT .. since they are local lads they not only get the benefit of the doubt, they get folk writing into the Guestbook complaining that they are not being given a chance.
To take a part time Club into Division one and then to keep them there against all the odds is in itself some achievement. It is noteworthy that Brechin City, having spent vast sums of money in comparison, are struggling to the same extent as we did last season. However, at the end of the day, it is results that matter and they probably havent been as good as they should be so a change in managerial direction might be no bad thing. But it shouldnt be forgotten that Brownlie did his best for Arbroath Football Club and devoted his time and energy and 'enthusiasm' without reservation. At the end of his reign it seems that he decided the timing of his own departure. It is a bit small minded that some supporters take such satisfaction in a guy loosing his job. Anyhow... a team is only as good as its last game.. so at least the only way is up!!
Name: SimonLichtie
Remote Name: 80.195.28.68
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 23:09
Just wondering who runs the fans team? I'd be quite interested in playing.
Name: Liam Anderson
Remote Name: 195.93.34.9
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 22:13
Was at the reserve League Cup tie tonight & Arbroath won deservedly 3-1. Players I recognised were. Mitchell, King, Browne, McGlashan, Durno, Herkes, Graham & Dow Posted this on the Ef website Arbroath went throught to the 2nd round of the reserve League Cup with a deserved 3-1 victory at a chilly Bayview Park Stadium tonight. Both sides were full of first team players but whilst none of the home X1 started against Dumbarton on Saturday, Arbroath's side was virtually the team beaten at Stenhousemuir. Stevie Nicholas played from the start but was still listed as a Trialist. Ross Graham looked good up front for the Smokies & in truth if Marc Graham hadn't made two superb saves it could have been a heavier defeat. One save from a point blank Herkes header was top class! EF's goal came from a Gilberto header! Yes a Gilberto HEADER! Team Graham, Russell, Miller,Mortimer, Linton (u19) Blair, Love, Nicholas, Ogilvie, Lynes & Gilbert.
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.73.213
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 18:14
Teuchtar Lichtie
Would that be the same Dave Baikie who along with the committee put us in the large financial hole that we are still in today.
I think you will find that Baikie paid way over the odds for players (hello Mr Good). These same players he couldn't ultimately get to play above 8th in the 2nd division.
Brownlie suffered as the highly paid players went elsewhere (hello George Rowe). He then had to work with no money for transfers and very little for wages.
The simple fact is that Brownlie never received the credit he was due for taking up a struggling team and keeping them up when they were the only part time team in the league. When they did well it was down to Baikie and when they struggled it was down to Brownlie.
I will never forget when Brownlie set Arbroath on their longest run of wins in their history and when the run ended the team was booed off. At you get fans here saying they never rated him anyway, give me a break.
First Paul Brownlie was hounded out(we could have used him this season) for being John's son and now the father has alos been hounded out.
Name: Teuchtar Lichtie
Remote Name: 195.92.168.171
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 17:51
Good Riddance To John Brownlie. The Best manager in recent History! He has totally destroyed the club (With the help off the spineless board). Everyone realises that the only reason he gained promotion a couple of years ago was due to the squad inherited from Dave Baikie. Once Brownlie started introducing his own players, thats when the preverbial sh*t hit the fan!. The YTS scheme aimed at bringing the clubs youngsters through has been totally demolished (Developed and funding achieved by Dave Baikie). If the board had any decency they would have given Brownlie his marching orders when he offered his resignation at the end of last season following the defeat at Alloa. Since then, giving Brownlie there support, he has introduced more average players who have under achieved this season. I wonder who will be interested in this position, considering there shall be no funds available for a new manager. The only good thing that can be taken from this escapade is the comfort off knowing the vast majority of people who backed arbroath for relegation at tasty odds of 12-1. Roll On!
Name: Grant from Arbroath
Remote Name: 81.152.73.213
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 17:34
A sad day indeed, he was the best manager in my time supporting the lichties.
I cannot see how we possibly can get anyone better, history should have at least taught us that much.
Additionaly a new manager will still have no money to spend and will still not be able to bring in players from other clubs.
Brownlie was far from perfect, but his good deeds far outweighed his bad and I wish him all the best with any other club (unless he ends up at Montrose).
It will be interesting though to see who gets the blame for everything from the pies being cold to players injuries now JB has fallen on his sword.
Name: caretaker manager....
Remote Name: 81.6.252.68
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 17:32
Steve Kirk
Name: Swankie
Remote Name: 64.154.26.248
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 17:08
Bye bye Brownlie. Cheers for two good years. But it was time for you to go. Good luck!
Name: AFC bellrock
Remote Name: 195.92.168.169
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 16:31
WHO WILL TAKE OVER THE HOT SEAT???? LETS HERE YOUR THOUGHTS.
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 16:12
Brownlie has quit, its on teletext on itv, page 488
Brownlie quoted the Edinburgh Evening Telegraph
"i take the way we have been perforoming personally. I offered to go and the board didn't try and talk me out of it"
Name: Graham, Fordoun
Remote Name: 195.92.168.165
Date: 07/10/03
Time: 16:11